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==pets==
==Re:Arf arf==
what pikmin enemy would you like to have as a pet? {{User:Captenluigi2/sig}}
Thanks for the compliment! I chose the name because Roacher sounded kinda like Bowser, and I wanted to go off the logic of Oatchi being named after Yoshi. Even though Bowser isn't an ally like Yoshi, I initially imagined Roacher as looking like a Doberman and having a spiked collar, henceforth I wanted a fittingly scruffy-sounding name. And I'm excited to see how space dogs get implimented in Wide World 2, alongside their feline counterparts as well! --[[User:CarrotStilts1|CarrotStilts1]] ([[User talk:CarrotStilts1|talk]]) 19:52, 6 February 2024 (UTC)


==About the cleanup project==
==Break==
Wow, there seems to be a nearly endless amount of things to be done. It's kinda overwhelming. I'll do my best, but for the time being I'm not feeling so well. I should be back in action soon though. {{User:Peanut64/sig}} 02:31, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Im taking a two week break. I don't have time to write now. [[User:Luke the tree|Luke the tree]] ([[User talk:Luke the tree|talk]])


Hey Cheepy, I think you should Archive this one. You're at 50 Sections now. {{User:Cyan piklord 64/sig}}
==pik 2==
so...i am going to take a break to think about new enemies designs. Almost everything is ready for pik, so im working on pik 2 stuff. im not saying that everything about pik is done since i didn't even created some captains and a lot of enemies are missing in the piklopedia. sooo...
i will work on this stuff alongside pik 2. see ya! [[User:Luke the tree|Luke the tree]] ([[User talk:Luke the tree|talk]])


Do enemies need to be moved to pages with (Game Name Here) at the end? I created an enemy for my game and wanted to be sure. Also, there are so many things to be done with project cleanup, that I'd rather you tell me which specific thing requires immediate attention. I tend to need to focus on small chunks, having ADHD and all. Thanks. {{User:Peanut64/sig}} 12:32, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
i will work on both fanon games but i will mainly work on pik. i already have some pikmin and enemies ideas in mind for pik 2. also, i am italian. can you tell me wich word is correct?:mustached,moustached,moustachioed. [[User:Luke the tree|Luke the tree]] ([[User talk:Luke the tree|talk]])


I'm sorry I haven't started helping with Project: Cleanup. I am very timid about this, and am afraid I will mess something up. You've been maintaining this site for the past half a decade and I can't help but think I am way in over my head. I've looked back at my past actions and feel I had such an ego before, I flaunted my status. I've been trying to be more humble, and a part of that humility is admitting when I have no idea how to help... :/ {{User:Peanut64/sig}} 21:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
==burrowing snuffin==
can i use the burrowing snuffin for pik? i didn't created it so i would like to know if i can. oh wait maybe i should ask PurpleHeadache if i can use it. [[User:Luke the tree|Luke the tree]] ([[User talk:Luke the tree|talk]])


==Re: Bomb rock Pikmin==
==Thriving utopia==
Fair enough. It annoys me, as I have this deep seated belief that Bomb-Rock is the correct way, but canon trumps my inclinations. {{User:Peanut64/sig}} 02:29, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
I've been thinking that I should move the page to "thriving utopia" instead of Crumbling Kingdom. The page is a mess, I've mostly just been trying to throw all of my ideas onto it and then I'd sort them into relevant sections from there. I'm glad you liked the maps I made, too. I hope your day is going well! I'm doing a lot on and off the wiki, but I really do love it here! There are so many ideas, so many cool things here! Thanks for your help, g'bye!! -- [[User:CJ-Does-Pikmin|CJ]] ([[User talk:CJ-Does-Pikmin|talk]])


==g          o          n          e==
==Editing <3==
Hey, Cheepy, could you please leave a Redirect after you move an image? Whenever you don't, the image link on it's page doesn't work. Thanks! {{User:Cyan piklord 64/sig}}
I love this place, and I want it to stay perfect. It's great here, truly... I wanted to get some help with editing... Do you have any ideas on where to start?
Thanks so much for the help!
I'd love to help out here and make it stay perfect... Any bit counts, am I right? [[User:CJ-Does-Pikmin|CJ]] | [[User talk:CJ-Does-Pikmin|Talk]] | [[Pikmin: Together Forever|PTF]]


Sorry. I didn't know. {{User:Cyan piklord 64/sig}}
==Rename request again==
...I'm thinking to rename to "Blower Pot", so it is a more original name, based well, mine is basically just the Brawl Stars "Darryl" but with a "Omg" on the end, so I prefer to make a more unique username instead of this. Well, I will keep this username on some other sites and wikis, but I would like to chance my username to "Blower Pot" in Pikmin Fanon, and which so would also happen in Fanon Wiki too I'll presume. {{User:Blower Pot/sig}}


It's ok, everybody has bad days every once in a while. {{User:Cyan piklord 64/sig}}
==Re:Userpage==
I do think it was a subconscious choice to put it at the end of the list due to its size. It's a fun game, after all. I really like the comedy expressed in the notes (the Waterwraith's in particular had the perfect four-way dynamic between The President, Marie, Louie and the Dolphin Lander) and the use of the otherwise underrepresented New World creatures like the Capstalk and Crystal Kettlebug is always welcome. I can't wait to see where you take it and the post Pikmin 4 sequel! This kinda reminds me of that discussion we had around the time I first joined the wiki. --[[User:CarrotStilts1|CarrotStilts1]] ([[User talk:CarrotStilts1|talk]]) 22:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


==Thanks==
<hr>
I appreciate you cleaning up my images and templates. I guess I don't always get it right on my own, so the help is cherished. I'll try in the future to get it right in the first place. {{User:Peanut64/sig}} 22:08, 2 July 2021 (UTC)


==New Logo==
So I just wanna say cheepy-cheepy is #1 mod [[User:Dabebo921|Dabebo921]] ([[User talk:Dabebo921|talk]])
Hey Cheep! I am trying to make a new logo for our site, so I'd love some feedback on [[Talk:Main Page]]. In reality I want to give the whole skin and main page a fresh coat of paint. Let me know on the talk page if you have any suggestions! {{User:Peanut64/sig}} 16:56, 9 July 2021 (UTC)


:Also, do you have a discord? It's a lot quicker to talk over there, so I was wondering if you have one. I still will use talk pages for major things but discord is good for minor chatting. Let me know! {{User:Peanut64/sig}} 19:52, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
:Naturally. {{User:Cheepy-Cheepy/sig}} 14:35, 6 March 2024 (UTC)


Hey Cheepy, can you add me too? Thanks! {{User:Cyan piklord 64/sig}}
==Order of fangame sections on pages==
Hi, thank you so much for helping clean up my pages! I noticed that you moved my ''Antarctic Survival'' sections around a bit on some pages, like the one for the [[Arctic Cannon Beetle]] and [[Mamuta]]. Is there a specific order that the fangames are supposed to follow? I figured that since my game was a spinoff title that deviates from the typical ''Pikmin'' formula, it belonged at the bottom, but you moved them closer to the top. Where should I put my fangame sections relative to the other fangame sections? {{User:A Friendly Amprat/sig}}


Fine, lmao. My tag is xXxKingBoo69xXx#4844. {{User:Cheepy-Cheepy/sig}}
It is in alphatical order. {{User:Blower Pot/sig}}


==Re:Discord==
==About using other users' creatures==
Oops, I put a capital J in jellyman when it should have been lowercase. Try now. {{User:Peanut64/sig}} 20:32, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I have a question regarding using concepts from pages made by other wiki users in a user's own fangame. Specifically I am curious about whether it is allowed to use enemies and Pikmin on this wiki in a fangame, even if the fangame creator did not create the original enemy or Pikmin type. I was considering creating DLC/expansion packs for my own game, ''[[Pikmin: Antarctic Survival]]'', which would feature recruitable creatures and Pikmin that are not from the mainline ''Pikmin'' games but instead originate from fangames on this wiki. Do I need to get a user's permission before using their enemy or Pikmin type in my own game? What if the user no longer uses this wiki, so I cannot ask them? I assume I don't need permission for something like the [[Acidic Dweevil]] which is a somewhat common concept, but what about a more unique enemy type like the [[Peach Bulborb]] or [[Chia Jellyfloat]], or even a creature in a completely new family like the [[Curdew]]? What if the creature has important story significance, like the [[Grimacing Cremblub]] or [[Complex Parasite]]? I love the ideas on this wiki and would love to make crossover content with them, but I don't want to commit a violation of intellectual property or seem like I'm stealing ideas. {{User:A Friendly Amprat/sig}}


==Congratulations==
==100 Days of Something-or-Another==
You have been instrumental in keeping this wiki alive. You have now been granted the merit of '''Bureaucrat'''. Thanks for all of your hard work and dedication. {{User:Peanut64/sig}} 18:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
I've still been thinking about ''100 Days'' in spite of its abandonment. Obviously it's gonna be ported here and touched up to a modern standard some day or another, but more importantly I've been thinking on the possibility of going back and revising some stuff for accesibility. It might be multiple years out of date, but I truly do love some of the ideas I came up with for the game, and I still have memories of what else I wanted to add. In short, I'd like to ask if I could take porting its contents in my own hands. Is that cool with you, or would you rather a bot or user of higher power do it instead? I'd love to integrate it back into modern Pikmin Fanon culture, but if I must wait, that's possible too. --[[User:CarrotStilts1|CarrotStilts1]] ([[User talk:CarrotStilts1|talk]]) 18:46, 25 March 2024 (UTC)


==suggestion==
==Thank you Cheepy!==
could there be a mosquito like enemy in pikmin wide world? {{User:Captenluigi2/sig}}
I didn't know there WAS a timeline page, that's actually really useful! I learn so much every day on here, thank you so much for helping me with this, cheepy! [[User:CJ-Does-Pikmin|CJ-Does-Pikmin]] ([[User talk:CJ-Does-Pikmin|talk]]) 23:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)


==I'm Back==
==Category question==
Hey I'm planning on coming back, is this the correct site and how you been doing {{User:LoganPikmin/sig2}}
Hi, I have a quick question regarding enemy categorization. For the [[:Category:Mist enemies|mist enemies category]], I was going to put creatures in that category that can use mist in one or more of my games, and are from the official ''Pikmin'' games. However, I realized that it might be confusing to add a new hazard that doesn't even exist in the official games to categorize official enemy pages. Should I refrain from putting canon enemies into this category and rework how I use the category, or is it just me who feels like doing this might be a bit odd? Also, some enemies like the [[Arctic Cannon Beetle]] don't even always use mist in my games, and it's specific to the one in ''Antarctic Survival'', so that confuses things further. {{User:A Friendly Amprat/sig}}


Yeah its changed a lot, good to hear from you again, I'm going to try being more active, anything I can help with. {{User:LoganPikmin/sig2}}
==About the bloodbath joke…==
The joke i did in the [[Bloodbath]] page was a joke and was not meant to be taken seriously. It was a random idea i had. {{User:PikminKartSuperCircuit/Sig}} 21:23, 31 March 2024 (UTC)


Ok wow that is a lot, I will try to get started on it. For the files page, do you need drawings done of enemies and stuff?  {{User:LoganPikmin/sig2}}
:I know, but the thing was, this wiki is for ''Pikmin'' games, not Geometry Dash, and the page is pretty much just a description of the level, not mentioning anything about ''Pikmin'', except for that infobox, but only having the sicentific name. {{User:Blower Pot/sig}}


==Tournament of Drawing Implements==
::it was a joke and was intended to be removed, but it was a early April fools joke. {{User:PikminKartSuperCircuit/Sig}} 23:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Honestly this drawing contest seems really fun! I have to agree with you though, I think that other people should have their works redrawn too. Maybe we could create a list of everyone who is ok with their works being drawn, and a list of people who want to participate? If we do that, we can assign everyone who is ok with their stuff being redrawn a number and use an RNG to decide who's work is being redrawn, and then they can choose which thing of theirs is drawn? It seems like a good enough system to me. Anyways, I like Salem's idea. If we are doing this though, and this is an official thing, I think it should be on the main page, and that there should be some kind of thing you get for being voted the best submission. I hope this whole idea is worked out and implemented soon! {{User:Cyan piklord 64/sig}}


==Pikmin V Pikmin merging==
:::I see. {{User:Cheepy-Cheepy/sig}} 13:06, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Why is it that you want to dissolve [[Pikmin V/Pikmin types]] into the Pikmins' individual pages? I like it as a way to see and compare all of the types in the game together. --[[User:En Passant|<font color="666666">En</font>]] [[User talk:En Passant|<font color="666666">Passant</font>]] 07:38, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
:What makes it better? Is there a problem with having the info on both Pikmin V's Pikmin page and the species' pages (which is already the case for [[Orange Pikmin (miscellaneous)#In Pikmin V|Orange]] and [[Clawed Pikmin]])? --[[User:En Passant|<font color="666666">En</font>]] [[User talk:En Passant|<font color="666666">Passant</font>]] 04:50, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
::Your thoughts don't answer my question, though, which is why the information can't exist in both places as it does now (the Pikmin's article and the Pikmin V subpage). I don't want to add all of that onto the main Pikmin V page to avoid bloating and be consistent with the Enemy/Treasure sections below it. --[[User:En Passant|<font color="666666">En</font>]] [[User talk:En Passant|<font color="666666">Passant</font>]] 04:18, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
:::Yeah, Pikmin Fanon has kind of stopped notifying me about new talk page messages, so I didn't know I even had a reply from you, and I wasn't active on the wiki since until someone (possibly you) asked me to start making pages just yesterday. Anyway, that reasoning makes a lot more sense, but I'm still hesitant about it. Paradoxically, the written portions I have on my Pikmin are short enough that they could fit on the page without issue - it's the infoboxes I'm concerned about for bloat. It feels weird to have "summarized" versions on the main page when the small pieces of technical information in the infobox are the only thing that are exclusive to the Pikmin's own article. I know that's what you do for Wide World, but, and it does look nice, I just don't know if it's necessarily better or should be standard. --[[User:En Passant|<font color="666666">En</font>]] [[User talk:En Passant|<font color="666666">Passant</font>]] 06:48, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
::::Other users doing it for their games doesn't make it the best way to format, just the one with the least work. The many wiki cleanup attempts exist because the way a lot of people formatted things wasn't very good...
::::Regarding canon vs. fanon, since this is a fanon wiki, it's implied that everything here is fanon unless stated otherwise, right? We have headers at the top of the pages that state when they're canon content, with links to Pikipedia. The "In fanon games" header is pretty redundant and messes up the table of contents, so that's why I've been changing them. My personal opinion is that we don't need to have the canon game notes for enemies at all since we don't cover the canon games on this wiki, but since it's not actively harmful, I sectioned them off with the label instead of deleting them.
::::The same applies to the "In other games" header, as if only one game can claim ownership of an idea. I really don't like how you re-arranged the [[Pellet Poser]] page to make it seem like the idea was Scruffy's first and I just borrowed it, when, as I already noted on the page when it was made, we came up with it completely independently. There's nothing categorically distinguishing this page from the many, many repeated colors of Pikmin or elemental hazard enemy reskins, so do you plan on making the first sections of those the "default" ones, giving those creators credit for the idea when it's definitely not that original, and placing every one other in an "other games" grouping? I even undid that on my own [[Clawed Pikmin]] page. I've never seen a wiki ever claim an enemy, item, etc. as "belonging" to their original game.--[[User:En Passant|<font color="666666">En</font>]] [[User talk:En Passant|<font color="666666">Passant</font>]] 07:38, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
:::::That's sort of my point about the section thing. What time the information was added to the wiki has no bearing on where or when the idea actually originated, and it's not fair that whoever gets around to writing it on the wiki first gets their game's version specially featured as the source of it, above the table of contents and with their game banner plainly visible at the top, when it isn't especially likely that it's true. In addition to the issue you mentioned about past edits (which is absolutely in the realm of possibility for our userbase, even if you haven't found hard evidence), this formatting would create another one for future ones: It would highly incentivize the wiki version of "first" comments, where someone makes articles for their stuff without adding anything of value to them just so they get the coveted spots at the top of the page.
:::::I think the formatting for both canon and fanon content could be done the same way, having an overview of what the thing is generally like at the top before going into the sections for each of the fanon games. In cases where something performs radically differently between games, it might be appropriate to split the article, like what was done with the Orange and Green and Black Pikmin articles. I think the only reason notes sections stuff up articles is when it gets to the X.Y.Z.W level of hierarchy, of which removing the "In fanon/other games" sentence chops off a whole layer. While it is technically more convenient to have more canon info accessible at the top of the page for canon content... the Pikipedia article is only one click away, and the more info we have here, the more we have to update with new releases and such, which is something we are notoriously bad at. --[[User:En Passant|<font color="666666">En</font>]] [[User talk:En Passant|<font color="666666">Passant</font>]] 20:07, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
::::::Why do you think those sections are necessary? I'll concede that an "appearances by game" header is standard for recurring content on wikis for other franchises, but since very few fangames are officially released and most get updated substantially over time, Pikmin Fanon content doesn't really recur in that fashion (and that's why I think attempting chronological organization is a bad idea). Each game's section within an article is basically its own article, operated by the game's owner and capable of having its own subsections if need be (like Pikimon's movepools), and they're all simply placed on the same page since most are very similar and small so it prevents page bloat from repeated info. I think, when coupled the idea of keeping specifics of canon enemies on Pikipedia, that the beginning section of articles should be more of an abstract, a landing describing generalities that the different games' versions share, rather than the actual start of content. --[[User:En Passant|<font color="666666">En</font>]] [[User talk:En Passant|<font color="666666">Passant</font>]] 06:00, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
:::::::Erm, I meant the "In fanon games"/"User versions" headers. I don't have any problem with the "Appearances by game" gallery. I'm not seeing where you explained the necessity of these, other than that users sometimes make content not associated with a game. I feel like that's arguably a case ''against'' the headers, in situations where both game- and user- versions exist for the same idea: either you'll need two separate sections, which seems pretty unnecessary when the content in the article itself isn't any different, or neither header will be entirely accurate to the content.
:::::::I also don't understand what you mean by the family categorizing. If you mean enemy genealogy, I don't see the problem with listing an enemy under any families it has been classified under in various games, as long as each family's page mentions that it is only classified there in whichever specific games. --[[User:En Passant|<font color="666666">En</font>]] [[User talk:En Passant|<font color="666666">Passant</font>]] 23:38, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
::::::::I'll use [[Pink Wollywog]] as an example of why I want these changes, then. Even disregarding the first comment thing, the entry at the top (from Redemption) talks about how the Pink Wollywog is a unique species of Wollywog that doesn't attack but instead spawns other, more dangerous Wollywogs. I was left wondering if PikHacker really included that in the mod, and then I scroll down and see that 251's Pink Wollywog is ''nothing'' like that. The only common element between the two versions is that they're pink. Either one being at the top is very misleading for the other, and therefore neither should be at the top.
::::::::This may sound obvious, but I wrote [[Pellet Poser]] the way I think articles should be formatted, before it got changed. It described what the Pellet Posers were (Creeping Chrysanthemum meets Pellet Posy), then had the section for Pikmin V and Pikmin Forever for all game-specific behavior. There was no need for an "In fanon games" header because it's not a canon enemy. I'll also note that the two versions are in separate families, and it really doesn't mean much because they're just the two different ideas we came up with for taxonomy. Both families will only show up with the other enemies in that family in their respective games (just CC for V, but PF doesn't have CC and it does have a few others, so I think it's rather important to have them grouped outside of the Piklopedia page). I seriously don't understand what's confusing about it... whether an enemy behaves differently in two different games is a separate issue from this. I think it's only worth disambiguating/article splitting if the page is getting cluttered with entries; I don't think Pink Wollywog needs to be split. --[[User:En Passant|<font color="666666">En</font>]] [[User talk:En Passant|<font color="666666">Passant</font>]] 02:55, 21 January 2022 (UTC)


==Have You Seen This Man==
::::Probably, if you just did it during 1st april I would know it was for april fools not a random joke version out of nowhere. {{User:Blower Pot/sig}}
Hey where have you been I haven’t seen you in a while ~Salem


==Cheepy, this is urgent==
==Question==
The alt's been compromised. The only way I'm talking through this is because I selected "Keep me logged in" on the computer I registered my alt on. I need you to find some way to terminate this account.
When 1st april, will you start cleaning pages up? Well, I'm gonna presume that you didn't cleaned other pages much but the one that weren't jokes, such as the [[Monster Sewerat]]. So I'm gonna guess it is to keep them as the joke, right? {{User:Blower Pot/sig}}


UPDATE: My cousin is the one who compromised the account. He's planning to use it to grief Pikmin: Wide World and Pikmin E.
:I wanted to today, but I don't have all day to be on Pikmin Fanon. {{User:Cheepy-Cheepy/sig}} 16:20, 1 April 2024 (UTC)


==Hey.==
==Enemy03==
So, I discovered there's a LOT of broken/empty links on Pikmin Wide World's page. I'm gonna work on fixing those, so if you see edits to the page, I'm not doing anything too important. I'm CreatorofPikminE, and I own [[Pikmin E]]! [[User:CreatorofPikminE|CreatorofPikminE]] ([[User talk:CreatorofPikminE|talk]])
So, I saw there had a Enemy03, does it counts as separate unused enemy, or it is counted as early [[Spornet]], well, it has no face apparently, so I'm asking if it should be made as a own article or not. But based on the logic, you would probably add it to the [[eyebulb family]], and [[User:Soundwave|Soundwave]] would do it for their game in a instant. {{User:Blower Pot/sig}}


== Hi ==
==Question==
Hello it's been a while {{User:Captenluigi2/sig}}
How do you improve icons? {{User:PikminKartSuperCircuit/Sig}} 22:32, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


==I'm Back==
==Reskins==
I'm back in this community, joining the Pikmin Discord really helped renew my interest with the franchise, and I came to say that I may have some new stuff up my sleeve {{User:Glubbfubb/sig}}
I saw you changed the "reskin" to "skin", but actually, they are really called reskins, which refers to how they are the same [[Pikmin family|Pikmin]] on how it acts, but with a different design, animations, and sound effect. {{User:Blower Pot/sig}}


==It’s been a while==
...Also, what do you think about [[Pikmin 2... Again?/Customization|customization]], what I recently added? Well, it is under construction but I'm gonna guess it would be cleanup up, lots of those descriptions would be probably... But I wonder if you liked it, well, not everyone ever did such stuff on this wiki, originally, there had no customization, but just a mode where you could turn your Pikmin into Walking Pikmin, until I expanded this. And this was before april fools, when I was planning what I could do. {{User:Blower Pot/sig}}
It’s been a while since I posted something on the pikmin fanon but now I’m back in business ~ Salem


==Pain Brush==
==Cleanup regarding objectivity policy==
Why is the Spitball Dweevil a disguising enemy now? {{User:Cyan piklord 64/sig}}
I've started a cleanup project on ''[[Pikmin: Sinister Incinerator]]'' and I noticed that most of the pages made for that game do not follow the [[PikminFanon:General content policy|modern objectivity policy]] due to being made before the policy was created, namely that they use the word "you" to refer to the player or reader and are generally written in a more casual and non-professional manner. Should these be changed? I could start running through these and rewrite them, but I feel like getting rid of Portal-Kombat's iconic style would actually detract a lot from the pages, and it would be a laborious task to rewrite all of the pages anyway. {{User:A Friendly Amprat/sig}}


Mm. Yeah, that's fair. {{User:Cyan piklord 64/sig}}
*Honestly, I have mixed feelings on the objectivity policy anyway. Not that it changes anything what I think of course, but to give my two cents, I feel like it doesn't make as much sense to apply it to a wiki about fan-made ''Pikmin'' content made for fun, compared to applying it to a wiki which is used to record information about an actual real topic, which can be used for research and documentation purposes. Pikipedia needs to be professional because it is a formal encyclopedia encompassing all Pikmin content, which is used as a resource for all information relating to the game which is needed for any purpose, whether that be as a guide for stuck players, a repository for some information or statistic relating to a creature, or an up-to-date collection of recently revealed ''Pikmin'' information. It is kept formal and objective, because it covers a professional and objective topic, namely the ''Pikmin'' franchise of games, and all related topics. Meanwhile, the same reasoning cannot really be applied to ''Pikmin Fanon''. ''Pikmin Fanon'' was born in the late 2000s as a passion project by a bunch of ''Pikmin'' fans who wanted a place to document their Pikmin fan content, collected from the ''Pikmin Wars'' forum, user pages on Pikipedia, and other fan sources of ''Pikmin'' content during the massive ''Pikmin'' content drought which lasted all the way to mid-2012 when ''Pikmin 3'' was finally revealed. It was never meant to be a formal documentation site in the same vein as ''Wikipedia'' or ''Pikipedia'', but rather as a place where anyone could make their own ideas of what ''Pikmin'' could be into reality. The original ''Pikmin Fanon'' projects like ''[[Pikmin: Sinister Incinerator]]'' and ''[[Pikmin: The After Years]]'' were created by young ''Pikmin'' fans who wanted to share their game ideas with the world, and didn't care so much about how their information was presented, as opposed to just being able to write about these ideas for fun. Looking back at the old Pikmin Fanon pages, especially the historical versions of them before the modern era collection of edits, there's a level of nostalgia and innocence found in those pages which is very much emblematic of the internet of the late 2000s, and is something that has been lost in some cases with the strict rules we now have that are based on the Pikipedia standard. I feel like these policies are not nearly as appropriate for what ''Pikmin Fanon'' is, and what it always has been since I started reading it in 2009. Modern ''Pikmin Fanon'' at times feels clinical and impersonal, as if it is made as a professional endeavor rather than as a hobby by a group of video game fans of various ages and backgrounds. Fan game creation in its essence is an innately passionate and personal experience, and this feels like it goes directly at odds with the objective and detached style of writing which pages now use, which gives off a bit of an odd and inconsistent vibe.<br>Of course, I fully understand why ''Pikmin Fanon''{{'s}} policies are the way they are. A wiki without standardization like this could become quite disorganized and messy with all its users pulling it in different directions, so strict guidelines are needed to keep it from devolving into a chaotic and haphazard mess of pages and categories with completely different formats. I think that strong guidelines, while some things about them bother me, are ultimately beneficial and necessary to the flourishing of the wiki, which is why I always make an effort to bring my pages and other pages I edit in line with the quality standard that I, and this wiki, want to uphold. Still, I feel like the policies being almost exactly identical to those of Pikipedia is not the best way of doing things, as Pikipedia in its nature is a very different sort of experience, diametrically opposed in some sense to what ''Pikmin Fanon'' is. At times, it feels almost robotic and emotionless, which seems quite strange for a wiki about something as fun and subjective as fan content for a popular game series. Parts of it make me feel a bit homesick and nostalgic for the days of the wiki when everyone was more casual and less serious, when things like Zero Two from ''Kirby'' being a Pikmin final boss and the "all-consuming space parasite OF DOOM!!" being an existential threat were just par for the course because of the youthful and naive sort of people who use a wiki like this. Pikmin Fanon was a massive part of my childhood since I was around seven years old, and I'm not sure if I would have liked Pikmin Fanon if my young self found it the way it is now, and might have been put off by all the formality.<br>Ultimately like I said, I know that my opinion doesn't and shouldn't change anything here (Strong rules are important to make a cohesive experience, after all) but I just wanted to speak about something I had been thinking about for a while. I'm not sure what the best way to handle this is, or if anything should even change at all regarding wiki policies (I might be the only one bothered by this) but I feel like giving some thought to changes, even as a "what-if" situation, couldn't possibly hurt. A part of me really likes the way that [https://tvtropes.org TV Tropes] handles its writing style, as it is a lot more relaxed and fun in its writing style while still having strong organization to prevent it from becoming chaotic like Pikmin Fanon has been at times. I feel like that sort of style would make more sense for a wiki like this which is about something as informal and casual as ''Pikmin'' fangames. Still, I don't even know if anything should change at all -- it's just something I've been thinking about. Perhaps games could have "walkthrough"- or "guide"-styled sub-pages, similar to the [https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/589374-pikmin-2/43316624 ''My Pikmin 3 Walkthrough (FAKE)'' fanon Pikmin thread] which I've been working on bringing content from over to this wiki, where things are less strictly formatted and referring to the player directly as "you" is acceptable, as is typical for a walkthrough or guide. I'm strongly considering making a fake walkthrough for my new ''Pikmin'' fangame, ''[[Pikmin III]]'', and it feels awkward and stilted to write "the player" every time instead of just saying "you" in a guide-styled page. The ''Sinister Incinerator'' pages on areas and caves, such as the one for [[Dark Field Cave]], are pretty much written as fan-made "guide/walkthroughs" anyway, so I feel like the use of words like "you" and general informal tone are more understandable when one considers that fact. There might be some better way to split the guide off from the rest of the content, but it's clear that Portal-Kombat intended the writing of the page to be styled after a classic game walkthrough (like those made for ''Pikmin'' games on GameFAQs) and changing that takes away from the nostalgic style and discovery aspect of a new player experiencing this hypothetical ''"Pikmin: Sinister Incinerator"'' game, in favor of a page that instead exists to write out all the game's content in a detached manner.<br>All of this is just my personal thoughts, and I don't know if anyone else even feels this way. I might just be stuck in the past (which would be par for the course for me as the resident "''Pikmin Fanon'' boomer") but it feels like some of the nostalgic charm of the classic fangames of this wiki has been lost. That might be why even after all these years ''Sinister Incinerator'' is my favorite fangame, because even though a lot of the new fangames are much more impressive, they're missing that sense of being created by a young ''Pikmin'' fan's writings and the personality that shows through that. At the end of the day, I'm gonna stick to following the guidelines, because they're there for a reason -- I just don't know if a traditional set of wiki guidelines makes as much sense for a personal fangame wiki, compared to documentation of an official game.<br>Thanks for taking the time to read all this, to anyone who's still here listening to my ramblings. (This is something I do sometimes which I call an "Amp-rant". People have been making fun of me for doing this kinda thing since 2018.)<br>{{User:A Friendly Amprat/sig}}
::Okay, what's kind of funny actually is I just took a look at Pikipedia's cave articles (example: {{c|Hole of Beasts}}, {{c|White Flower Garden}}) and these <u>very frequently</u> use the word "you", because they are considered "guide" pages. There is a {{t|guide}} template which these pages use at the start, and then they go into "how to reach" and individual sublevel sections. I'm going to try to replicate this style for when I clean up the ''Sinister Incinerator'' pages. We could probably have a guide template for this wiki as well. {{User:A Friendly Amprat/sig}}


==We Wish You a Merry Pikmas and a Happy==
==Hi cheepy!==
Cheepy, why didn't you just make the Pikmin 2: New Year enemies sections of pre-existing ones? They all seem to have the same behavior. By the time you're done that game alone will have probably increased the enemy pages count by a thirty-second! Also now I think it does the Main Page's article count have some sort of template that counts the content pages? It doesn't seem to have changed since the last time I've been on here. {{User:Cyan piklord 64/sig}}
So there's this thing I've been thinky-ing up... What if... WE JOINED FORCES??? Nah, I don't know what I was thinking there- but still, would you like to work on something? I think we'd do great! Oh, also, I kinda get the note you left on the Piklopedia page for Voyage in Space. I very much agree with it! - [[User:CJ-Does-Pikmin|CJ-Does-Pikmin]] ([[User talk:CJ-Does-Pikmin|talk]]) 03:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


==Ok so minor problem==
==Don't You Wanta Fanta?==
I think you broke the Infobox: Enemy template and now things are no longer in their assigned families. Most obviously, the Breadbug and Grub-dog families have well below a third of their total members. I'd guess about half or even more of our total enemy count has been removed from their families. Quite a few, mostly those later in the alphabet, are empty. Whatever you did, you should probably undo. {{User:Cyan piklord 64/sig}}
Sorry for the brief departure; I've been precoccupied with ''My Singing Monsters'' for a little while now. I came to inform you of a joke idea I hade April 1st, but never actually put together in time for the day. It has been finalised and will be a fanon game about a major catastrophe with citric undertones. However I've decided to withhold it until further notice considering you had to touch up at least three seperate pages for April Fools already and I didn't want to burn you out. Will I make it for the next April Fools? Nobody knows! All I can say for certain is that I'll be using my experience with a certain humor wiki on FANDOM to make it my funniest output yet. Until then, I'll be looking for the Ancient Sirehound in Venice, Italy. Ciao! --[[User:CarrotStilts1|CarrotStilts1]] ([[User talk:CarrotStilts1|talk]]) 00:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)


Hey uh, is the whole "Families aren't determined by the infobox" thing permanent? Would it be possible to make a "Custom Family" part of an infobox that would show your decided family, but not cause the whole categorizing bit? {{User:Cyan piklord 64/sig}}
:Thank you so much for your glowing support! I had to write all of it down in an hour so that I didn't lose too much sleep, and some things had to be reworked to keep it suitable. I'm glad you found it to be of high quality! --[[User:CarrotStilts1|CarrotStilts1]] ([[User talk:CarrotStilts1|talk]]) 19:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)


== update ==
==Making Custom Sigs==
So is this new layout of the wiki better with this update or worse then the older layout? {{User:Captenluigi2/sig}}
{{RedPikmin95|So, I've seen people have custom signatures. i know how to make a sig, but how do you make a custom signature? (what I'm talking about is those sigs that have an image beside it, say something like "I'm [INSERT USERNAME HERE], and [INSERT QUOTE HERE]" and have differently colored text)


== Yo... ==
edit: nevermind, i just found out}}
Why did you delete the page: <s>[[</s>Template:Pk<s>]]</s>? All I said was this is the preferred abbreviation for Pikipedia... {{User:Username/sig}}


==EFD Subcategory==
==''Sinister Incinerator'' Cave Headings==
What do you mean by "Find a suitable enemy subcategory for this enemy to go in." in the To-Do Template on the E.F. Dweevil's page? It's already correctly categorized, as far as I can tell. (Also I like the new mascot for the Welcome template.) {{User:Cyan piklord 64/sig}}
Hey, I'm trying to find a place to include Portal-Kombat's old "cave headings" for each cave in ''[[Pikmin: Sinister Incinerator]]'', such as "Your First Dungeon" for [[Magenta Den]] and "Underground Fields?!" for [[Serpent Garden]]. These were part of Portal-Kombat's original dungeon descriptions, and evidently how he wanted each cave to be introduced, but I notice that they have been removed from every one of PSI's dungeons. Is there a place I can put these on the cave pages where they won't be removed? {{User:A Friendly Amprat/sig}}


== New redirect? ==
==Remade articles==
Should I redirect the page, <s>[[</s>Help:Contents<s>]]</s> to [[:Category:Help]]? {{User:Username/sig}} 20:35, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
So, I saw a new user, [[User:Panda python42|Panda python42]]. They have made pages from the project cleanup, and as well, they added your game's navbox. Are you really planning to put stuffs like Snowy Blowlet, Jumbo Breadbug, Wooly Bulborb, or even Mamuta Larva? Cause for some reason, they added your infobox on those even if they aren't even mentioned on the navbox's Piklopedia. So I may remove them. {{User:Blower Pot/sig}}


==I need some help==
I haven't been here for quite some time due to other things, and I need some ideas. What should I do? (Also maybe making a custom character or something) {{User:Kuutti85/sig}}
== What is the new cave layout ==
I was about to make a new cave, but then I saw that the layouts have changed. Where can I read about these altered page layouts? [[User:CarrotStilts1|CarrotStilts1]] ([[User talk:CarrotStilts1|talk]]) 23:51, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
== Subject: ==
Hey, did you know that the [[Special:RecentChanges|recent changes]] page got updated? {{:User:Username/sig}} 01:16, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
==Userboxes==
{{User:Kuutti85/sig}} You know, I created many unique ideas no one else has ever done, and it's probably a record. Maybe I could receive some userboxes on creating lots of new stuff? I am a creative person, you know.
==Banner Request==
I asked [[User:Username|Username]] where to find someone who can make a banner for [[Pikmin: Spark]] and they said you are the main one who makes banners, could you make a unqiue banner for my fanwork [[Pikmin: Spark]] tell me if your interested, thanks {{User:Glubbfubb/sig}}
== Hello! ==
It's been a while since we talked. I'm an administrator on another wiki hosted by Grifkuba. It would be very much appreciated if you gave me admin tips. {{User:Username/sig}} 04:38, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
:Probably about the deletion. {{User:Username/sig}} 15:00, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
== Question #? ==
Am I banned on the Discord server? I'm literally serious, man. Why is my account renamed? {{User:Username/sig}} 03:20, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
:Oh... that phishing scam I accidentally clicked on and fell for it, yep. And I have control of my account, again. Lemme re-enter pls. {{User:Username/sig}} 04:17, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
::I am 100% certain I can even explained what happened. I'm sorry for everything that happened, you don't have to let me back in if you want. {{User:Username/sig}}
== A Long Long Long Reeeeaaaaaallllly long break ==
Ok im gonna be leaving the pikmin fanon for a while but I’ll back soon not too soon but soon ~ Salem
== Need some icons for enemies ==
{{User:Kuutti85/sig}} Why not make ones for say, the Strumbug, Watery Bubblimp or Bright Jellovid? (I already wrote that in the Bright Jellovid's article if you didn't notice)
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Re:Arf arf

Thanks for the compliment! I chose the name because Roacher sounded kinda like Bowser, and I wanted to go off the logic of Oatchi being named after Yoshi. Even though Bowser isn't an ally like Yoshi, I initially imagined Roacher as looking like a Doberman and having a spiked collar, henceforth I wanted a fittingly scruffy-sounding name. And I'm excited to see how space dogs get implimented in Wide World 2, alongside their feline counterparts as well! --CarrotStilts1 (talk) 19:52, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Break

Im taking a two week break. I don't have time to write now. Luke the tree (talk)

pik 2

so...i am going to take a break to think about new enemies designs. Almost everything is ready for pik, so im working on pik 2 stuff. im not saying that everything about pik is done since i didn't even created some captains and a lot of enemies are missing in the piklopedia. sooo... i will work on this stuff alongside pik 2. see ya! Luke the tree (talk)

i will work on both fanon games but i will mainly work on pik. i already have some pikmin and enemies ideas in mind for pik 2. also, i am italian. can you tell me wich word is correct?:mustached,moustached,moustachioed. Luke the tree (talk)

burrowing snuffin

can i use the burrowing snuffin for pik? i didn't created it so i would like to know if i can. oh wait maybe i should ask PurpleHeadache if i can use it. Luke the tree (talk)

Thriving utopia

I've been thinking that I should move the page to "thriving utopia" instead of Crumbling Kingdom. The page is a mess, I've mostly just been trying to throw all of my ideas onto it and then I'd sort them into relevant sections from there. I'm glad you liked the maps I made, too. I hope your day is going well! I'm doing a lot on and off the wiki, but I really do love it here! There are so many ideas, so many cool things here! Thanks for your help, g'bye!! -- CJ (talk)

Editing <3

I love this place, and I want it to stay perfect. It's great here, truly... I wanted to get some help with editing... Do you have any ideas on where to start? Thanks so much for the help! I'd love to help out here and make it stay perfect... Any bit counts, am I right? CJ | Talk | PTF

Rename request again

...I'm thinking to rename to "Blower Pot", so it is a more original name, based well, mine is basically just the Brawl Stars "Darryl" but with a "Omg" on the end, so I prefer to make a more unique username instead of this. Well, I will keep this username on some other sites and wikis, but I would like to chance my username to "Blower Pot" in Pikmin Fanon, and which so would also happen in Fanon Wiki too I'll presume. Blower Pot icon.pngBlower Pot Talk | Contributions | Fanon game

Re:Userpage

I do think it was a subconscious choice to put it at the end of the list due to its size. It's a fun game, after all. I really like the comedy expressed in the notes (the Waterwraith's in particular had the perfect four-way dynamic between The President, Marie, Louie and the Dolphin Lander) and the use of the otherwise underrepresented New World creatures like the Capstalk and Crystal Kettlebug is always welcome. I can't wait to see where you take it and the post Pikmin 4 sequel! This kinda reminds me of that discussion we had around the time I first joined the wiki. --CarrotStilts1 (talk) 22:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


So I just wanna say cheepy-cheepy is #1 mod Dabebo921 (talk)

Naturally. ~ Cheepy-Cheepy icon.pngCheepy-Cheepy  14:35, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Order of fangame sections on pages

Hi, thank you so much for helping clean up my pages! I noticed that you moved my Antarctic Survival sections around a bit on some pages, like the one for the Arctic Cannon Beetle and Mamuta. Is there a specific order that the fangames are supposed to follow? I figured that since my game was a spinoff title that deviates from the typical Pikmin formula, it belonged at the bottom, but you moved them closer to the top. Where should I put my fangame sections relative to the other fangame sections? – P4 Bearded Amprat icon.png A Friendly Amprat (Talk | Contribs | Projects)

It is in alphatical order. Blower Pot icon.pngBlower Pot Talk | Contributions | Fanon game

About using other users' creatures

Hello, I have a question regarding using concepts from pages made by other wiki users in a user's own fangame. Specifically I am curious about whether it is allowed to use enemies and Pikmin on this wiki in a fangame, even if the fangame creator did not create the original enemy or Pikmin type. I was considering creating DLC/expansion packs for my own game, Pikmin: Antarctic Survival, which would feature recruitable creatures and Pikmin that are not from the mainline Pikmin games but instead originate from fangames on this wiki. Do I need to get a user's permission before using their enemy or Pikmin type in my own game? What if the user no longer uses this wiki, so I cannot ask them? I assume I don't need permission for something like the Acidic Dweevil which is a somewhat common concept, but what about a more unique enemy type like the Peach Bulborb or Chia Jellyfloat, or even a creature in a completely new family like the Curdew? What if the creature has important story significance, like the Grimacing Cremblub or Complex Parasite? I love the ideas on this wiki and would love to make crossover content with them, but I don't want to commit a violation of intellectual property or seem like I'm stealing ideas. – P4 Bearded Amprat icon.png A Friendly Amprat (Talk | Contribs | Projects)

100 Days of Something-or-Another

I've still been thinking about 100 Days in spite of its abandonment. Obviously it's gonna be ported here and touched up to a modern standard some day or another, but more importantly I've been thinking on the possibility of going back and revising some stuff for accesibility. It might be multiple years out of date, but I truly do love some of the ideas I came up with for the game, and I still have memories of what else I wanted to add. In short, I'd like to ask if I could take porting its contents in my own hands. Is that cool with you, or would you rather a bot or user of higher power do it instead? I'd love to integrate it back into modern Pikmin Fanon culture, but if I must wait, that's possible too. --CarrotStilts1 (talk) 18:46, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Cheepy!

I didn't know there WAS a timeline page, that's actually really useful! I learn so much every day on here, thank you so much for helping me with this, cheepy! CJ-Does-Pikmin (talk) 23:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Category question

Hi, I have a quick question regarding enemy categorization. For the mist enemies category, I was going to put creatures in that category that can use mist in one or more of my games, and are from the official Pikmin games. However, I realized that it might be confusing to add a new hazard that doesn't even exist in the official games to categorize official enemy pages. Should I refrain from putting canon enemies into this category and rework how I use the category, or is it just me who feels like doing this might be a bit odd? Also, some enemies like the Arctic Cannon Beetle don't even always use mist in my games, and it's specific to the one in Antarctic Survival, so that confuses things further. – P4 Bearded Amprat icon.png A Friendly Amprat (Talk | Contribs | Projects)

About the bloodbath joke…

The joke i did in the Bloodbath page was a joke and was not meant to be taken seriously. It was a random idea i had. ~I’m PikminKart P18b11 Porquillion extinct.png SuperCircuit, and I know the Pikmin Comic schedule! 21:23, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I know, but the thing was, this wiki is for Pikmin games, not Geometry Dash, and the page is pretty much just a description of the level, not mentioning anything about Pikmin, except for that infobox, but only having the sicentific name. Blower Pot icon.pngBlower Pot Talk | Contributions | Fanon game
it was a joke and was intended to be removed, but it was a early April fools joke. ~I’m PikminKart P18b11 Porquillion extinct.png SuperCircuit, and I know the Pikmin Comic schedule! 23:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
I see. ~ Cheepy-Cheepy icon.pngCheepy-Cheepy  13:06, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Probably, if you just did it during 1st april I would know it was for april fools not a random joke version out of nowhere. Blower Pot icon.pngBlower Pot Talk | Contributions | Fanon game

Question

When 1st april, will you start cleaning pages up? Well, I'm gonna presume that you didn't cleaned other pages much but the one that weren't jokes, such as the Monster Sewerat. So I'm gonna guess it is to keep them as the joke, right? Blower Pot icon.pngBlower Pot Talk | Contributions | Fanon game

I wanted to today, but I don't have all day to be on Pikmin Fanon. ~ Cheepy-Cheepy icon.pngCheepy-Cheepy  16:20, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Enemy03

So, I saw there had a Enemy03, does it counts as separate unused enemy, or it is counted as early Spornet, well, it has no face apparently, so I'm asking if it should be made as a own article or not. But based on the logic, you would probably add it to the eyebulb family, and Soundwave would do it for their game in a instant. Blower Pot icon.pngBlower Pot Talk | Contributions | Fanon game

Question

How do you improve icons? ~I’m PikminKart P18b11 Porquillion extinct.png SuperCircuit, and I know the Pikmin Comic schedule! 22:32, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Reskins

I saw you changed the "reskin" to "skin", but actually, they are really called reskins, which refers to how they are the same Pikmin on how it acts, but with a different design, animations, and sound effect. Blower Pot icon.pngBlower Pot Talk | Contributions | Fanon game

...Also, what do you think about customization, what I recently added? Well, it is under construction but I'm gonna guess it would be cleanup up, lots of those descriptions would be probably... But I wonder if you liked it, well, not everyone ever did such stuff on this wiki, originally, there had no customization, but just a mode where you could turn your Pikmin into Walking Pikmin, until I expanded this. And this was before april fools, when I was planning what I could do. Blower Pot icon.pngBlower Pot Talk | Contributions | Fanon game

Cleanup regarding objectivity policy

I've started a cleanup project on Pikmin: Sinister Incinerator and I noticed that most of the pages made for that game do not follow the modern objectivity policy due to being made before the policy was created, namely that they use the word "you" to refer to the player or reader and are generally written in a more casual and non-professional manner. Should these be changed? I could start running through these and rewrite them, but I feel like getting rid of Portal-Kombat's iconic style would actually detract a lot from the pages, and it would be a laborious task to rewrite all of the pages anyway. – P4 Bearded Amprat icon.png A Friendly Amprat (Talk | Contribs | Projects)

  • Honestly, I have mixed feelings on the objectivity policy anyway. Not that it changes anything what I think of course, but to give my two cents, I feel like it doesn't make as much sense to apply it to a wiki about fan-made Pikmin content made for fun, compared to applying it to a wiki which is used to record information about an actual real topic, which can be used for research and documentation purposes. Pikipedia needs to be professional because it is a formal encyclopedia encompassing all Pikmin content, which is used as a resource for all information relating to the game which is needed for any purpose, whether that be as a guide for stuck players, a repository for some information or statistic relating to a creature, or an up-to-date collection of recently revealed Pikmin information. It is kept formal and objective, because it covers a professional and objective topic, namely the Pikmin franchise of games, and all related topics. Meanwhile, the same reasoning cannot really be applied to Pikmin Fanon. Pikmin Fanon was born in the late 2000s as a passion project by a bunch of Pikmin fans who wanted a place to document their Pikmin fan content, collected from the Pikmin Wars forum, user pages on Pikipedia, and other fan sources of Pikmin content during the massive Pikmin content drought which lasted all the way to mid-2012 when Pikmin 3 was finally revealed. It was never meant to be a formal documentation site in the same vein as Wikipedia or Pikipedia, but rather as a place where anyone could make their own ideas of what Pikmin could be into reality. The original Pikmin Fanon projects like Pikmin: Sinister Incinerator and Pikmin: The After Years were created by young Pikmin fans who wanted to share their game ideas with the world, and didn't care so much about how their information was presented, as opposed to just being able to write about these ideas for fun. Looking back at the old Pikmin Fanon pages, especially the historical versions of them before the modern era collection of edits, there's a level of nostalgia and innocence found in those pages which is very much emblematic of the internet of the late 2000s, and is something that has been lost in some cases with the strict rules we now have that are based on the Pikipedia standard. I feel like these policies are not nearly as appropriate for what Pikmin Fanon is, and what it always has been since I started reading it in 2009. Modern Pikmin Fanon at times feels clinical and impersonal, as if it is made as a professional endeavor rather than as a hobby by a group of video game fans of various ages and backgrounds. Fan game creation in its essence is an innately passionate and personal experience, and this feels like it goes directly at odds with the objective and detached style of writing which pages now use, which gives off a bit of an odd and inconsistent vibe.
    Of course, I fully understand why Pikmin Fanon's policies are the way they are. A wiki without standardization like this could become quite disorganized and messy with all its users pulling it in different directions, so strict guidelines are needed to keep it from devolving into a chaotic and haphazard mess of pages and categories with completely different formats. I think that strong guidelines, while some things about them bother me, are ultimately beneficial and necessary to the flourishing of the wiki, which is why I always make an effort to bring my pages and other pages I edit in line with the quality standard that I, and this wiki, want to uphold. Still, I feel like the policies being almost exactly identical to those of Pikipedia is not the best way of doing things, as Pikipedia in its nature is a very different sort of experience, diametrically opposed in some sense to what Pikmin Fanon is. At times, it feels almost robotic and emotionless, which seems quite strange for a wiki about something as fun and subjective as fan content for a popular game series. Parts of it make me feel a bit homesick and nostalgic for the days of the wiki when everyone was more casual and less serious, when things like Zero Two from Kirby being a Pikmin final boss and the "all-consuming space parasite OF DOOM!!" being an existential threat were just par for the course because of the youthful and naive sort of people who use a wiki like this. Pikmin Fanon was a massive part of my childhood since I was around seven years old, and I'm not sure if I would have liked Pikmin Fanon if my young self found it the way it is now, and might have been put off by all the formality.
    Ultimately like I said, I know that my opinion doesn't and shouldn't change anything here (Strong rules are important to make a cohesive experience, after all) but I just wanted to speak about something I had been thinking about for a while. I'm not sure what the best way to handle this is, or if anything should even change at all regarding wiki policies (I might be the only one bothered by this) but I feel like giving some thought to changes, even as a "what-if" situation, couldn't possibly hurt. A part of me really likes the way that TV Tropes handles its writing style, as it is a lot more relaxed and fun in its writing style while still having strong organization to prevent it from becoming chaotic like Pikmin Fanon has been at times. I feel like that sort of style would make more sense for a wiki like this which is about something as informal and casual as Pikmin fangames. Still, I don't even know if anything should change at all -- it's just something I've been thinking about. Perhaps games could have "walkthrough"- or "guide"-styled sub-pages, similar to the My Pikmin 3 Walkthrough (FAKE) fanon Pikmin thread which I've been working on bringing content from over to this wiki, where things are less strictly formatted and referring to the player directly as "you" is acceptable, as is typical for a walkthrough or guide. I'm strongly considering making a fake walkthrough for my new Pikmin fangame, Pikmin III, and it feels awkward and stilted to write "the player" every time instead of just saying "you" in a guide-styled page. The Sinister Incinerator pages on areas and caves, such as the one for Dark Field Cave, are pretty much written as fan-made "guide/walkthroughs" anyway, so I feel like the use of words like "you" and general informal tone are more understandable when one considers that fact. There might be some better way to split the guide off from the rest of the content, but it's clear that Portal-Kombat intended the writing of the page to be styled after a classic game walkthrough (like those made for Pikmin games on GameFAQs) and changing that takes away from the nostalgic style and discovery aspect of a new player experiencing this hypothetical "Pikmin: Sinister Incinerator" game, in favor of a page that instead exists to write out all the game's content in a detached manner.
    All of this is just my personal thoughts, and I don't know if anyone else even feels this way. I might just be stuck in the past (which would be par for the course for me as the resident "Pikmin Fanon boomer") but it feels like some of the nostalgic charm of the classic fangames of this wiki has been lost. That might be why even after all these years Sinister Incinerator is my favorite fangame, because even though a lot of the new fangames are much more impressive, they're missing that sense of being created by a young Pikmin fan's writings and the personality that shows through that. At the end of the day, I'm gonna stick to following the guidelines, because they're there for a reason -- I just don't know if a traditional set of wiki guidelines makes as much sense for a personal fangame wiki, compared to documentation of an official game.
    Thanks for taking the time to read all this, to anyone who's still here listening to my ramblings. (This is something I do sometimes which I call an "Amp-rant". People have been making fun of me for doing this kinda thing since 2018.)
    P4 Bearded Amprat icon.png A Friendly Amprat (Talk | Contribs | Projects)
Okay, what's kind of funny actually is I just took a look at Pikipedia's cave articles (example: Hole of Beasts, White Flower Garden) and these very frequently use the word "you", because they are considered "guide" pages. There is a {{guide}} template which these pages use at the start, and then they go into "how to reach" and individual sublevel sections. I'm going to try to replicate this style for when I clean up the Sinister Incinerator pages. We could probably have a guide template for this wiki as well. – P4 Bearded Amprat icon.png A Friendly Amprat (Talk | Contribs | Projects)

Hi cheepy!

So there's this thing I've been thinky-ing up... What if... WE JOINED FORCES??? Nah, I don't know what I was thinking there- but still, would you like to work on something? I think we'd do great! Oh, also, I kinda get the note you left on the Piklopedia page for Voyage in Space. I very much agree with it! - CJ-Does-Pikmin (talk) 03:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Don't You Wanta Fanta?

Sorry for the brief departure; I've been precoccupied with My Singing Monsters for a little while now. I came to inform you of a joke idea I hade April 1st, but never actually put together in time for the day. It has been finalised and will be a fanon game about a major catastrophe with citric undertones. However I've decided to withhold it until further notice considering you had to touch up at least three seperate pages for April Fools already and I didn't want to burn you out. Will I make it for the next April Fools? Nobody knows! All I can say for certain is that I'll be using my experience with a certain humor wiki on FANDOM to make it my funniest output yet. Until then, I'll be looking for the Ancient Sirehound in Venice, Italy. Ciao! --CarrotStilts1 (talk) 00:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your glowing support! I had to write all of it down in an hour so that I didn't lose too much sleep, and some things had to be reworked to keep it suitable. I'm glad you found it to be of high quality! --CarrotStilts1 (talk) 19:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Making Custom Sigs

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TALK RedPikmin95 (talk) 15:26, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
So, I've seen people have custom signatures. i know how to make a sig, but how do you make a custom signature? (what I'm talking about is those sigs that have an image beside it, say something like "I'm [INSERT USERNAME HERE], and [INSERT QUOTE HERE]" and have differently colored text)

edit: nevermind, i just found out

Sinister Incinerator Cave Headings

Hey, I'm trying to find a place to include Portal-Kombat's old "cave headings" for each cave in Pikmin: Sinister Incinerator, such as "Your First Dungeon" for Magenta Den and "Underground Fields?!" for Serpent Garden. These were part of Portal-Kombat's original dungeon descriptions, and evidently how he wanted each cave to be introduced, but I notice that they have been removed from every one of PSI's dungeons. Is there a place I can put these on the cave pages where they won't be removed? – P4 Bearded Amprat icon.png A Friendly Amprat (Talk | Contribs | Projects)

Remade articles

So, I saw a new user, Panda python42. They have made pages from the project cleanup, and as well, they added your game's navbox. Are you really planning to put stuffs like Snowy Blowlet, Jumbo Breadbug, Wooly Bulborb, or even Mamuta Larva? Cause for some reason, they added your infobox on those even if they aren't even mentioned on the navbox's Piklopedia. So I may remove them. Blower Pot icon.pngBlower Pot Talk | Contributions | Fanon game